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Old January 22nd, 2018, 01:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is this spoiler too obnoxious?

Hey guys, so I recently picked up a spoiler I found on Craigslist for 50 bucks, and I thought it was an actual SE spoiler but after I got it home I think it's just a cheaper aftermarket one.

It looks like it was sanded and maybe primered so obviously it's gonna need paint which brings me to my first questions: should I try and paint it myself or pay a shop to do it? How crucial would it be to get actual Kalapana Black paint to match, or would it not matter that much? If I paid a shop to do it, roughly how much would that cost me? I imagine it wouldn't be cheap.

Question 2: I realize a rear spoiler on a FWD car is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine but would this look too rice-y? I suppose my car might look kinda rice-y as is. I'm curious to hear what you guys think. Personally I'm on the fence about it. Its also quite a bit bigger on the car than I was envisioning.

I'll post pics below. Excuse my ghetto spray can propping it up lol. Thanks for looking.

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Old January 22nd, 2018, 01:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey guys, so I recently picked up a spoiler I found on Craigslist for 50 bucks, and I thought it was an actual SE spoiler but after I got it home I think it's just a cheaper aftermarket one.

It looks like it was sanded and maybe primered so obviously it's gonna need paint which brings me to my first questions: should I try and paint it myself or pay a shop to do it? How crucial would it be to get actual Kalapana Black paint to match, or would it not matter that much? If I paid a shop to do it, roughly how much would that cost me? I imagine it wouldn't be cheap.

Question 2: I realize a rear spoiler on a FWD car is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine but would this look too rice-y? I suppose as-is my car might look kinda rice-y as is. I'm curious to hear what you guys think. Personally I'm on the fence about it. Its also quite a bit bigger on the car than I was envisioning.

I'll post pics below. Excuse my ghetto spray can propping it up lol. Thanks for looking.

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Old January 22nd, 2018, 01:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It isn't really to my taste, but honestly it's your car and it's going to take much more than that to turn a 263hp car into rice lol

Get some quotes from local shops to have it painted. Can't be too much I imagine
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Old January 22nd, 2018, 02:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You've been misinformed, and it's a common myth and misunderstanding.

Spoilers do 100% the same thing on a FWD car as a RWD car. They disrupt the airflow (spoil) off the roof line preventing a low pressure pocket that gives lift and drag by shrinking the low pressure zone. Many are just for show, but some OEM wings do add noticeable fuel economy to the car when the body design is exceptionally poor, and stability is improved when there is a lot of rear end lift. It has actually been enough to alter some car's mileage ratings

Wings give a directional force depending on the angle of attack (downforce in cars, lift in airplanes). And in racing, downforce is needed at both ends of the car regardless of drivetrain setup. You want to keep things balanced so the mechanical grip from the front of the car with the extra weight is matched by the grip added by the air pushing down (additional downward energy without gaining mass) when using a rear wing, for an optimal setup. The Eclipse is front heavy, and a wing will bring it more in line to 50/50 if set up right for the track you're on. You don't see many (any?) successful racecars with a front end weight bias and no aero to counter it with a rear bias. It's a recipe for slow cornering speeds

You can ignore almost everything you learned about wings in school, shape isn't the major reason why airplanes get lift. It's all about angle of attack (the angle of the wing against the oncoming air mass) which creates a higher pressure pocket as well as drag. Fighter jets and stunt planes for example have symmetrically shaped wings which do not generate lift naturally at all. A flat car wing works on the same principal, and we alter angle of attack. The Bernoulli principal applies greatly to the car body's shape, however, in that a car naturally has high pressure under it (slow air, lots of turbulence), and creates a low pressure zone above it (smoother flowing air, fast). To create additional downforce without causing drag, we need to accelerate the air under the car's body to lower the pressure, which gives more downforce


But on topic to use it or not: If you like it, go for it. It might look cool in the same colour as your badging on the rear
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Old January 22nd, 2018, 02:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Looks good to me....To bring it all together add a rear diffuser or body kit to make everything look aggressive.
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Wouldn't an aggressive rear wing cause front end push (understeer) in hard corners?
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Wouldn't an aggressive rear wing cause front end push (understeer) in hard corners?
Yep, if you go too aggressive of course. It'll do that in a rwd car too
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Old January 22nd, 2018, 03:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Alright, after reading your replies I've decided I'm gonna go for it. Thank you all for your input, especially Sabertooth^2 for that in-depth explanation, that's really interesting. I'll be sure to update you guys on this, though it might be a while.

This is a really great community and I'm lucky to be a part of it! Thanks again

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Old January 23rd, 2018, 01:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm probably the one guy who thinks it's ugly as sin, then. It doesn't go with the car. It looks like it belongs on an older, bigger sports car. Even if it's painted, it's still too big.

While yes it does have a function, but is there a noticeable difference? Probably not. I feel like the added weight would negate any positive gains.

Just my two cents. I'm sure everyone else disagrees.
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Old January 23rd, 2018, 09:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I like it...give it a paint job and it'll be good 👍
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I'm probably the one guy who thinks it's ugly as sin, then. It doesn't go with the car. It looks like it belongs on an older, bigger sports car. Even if it's painted, it's still too big.

While yes it does have a function, but is there a noticeable difference? Probably not. I feel like the added weight would negate any positive gains.

Just my two cents. I'm sure everyone else disagrees.
Everyone has there own opinions, I personally don't see the gains on having one for a car of our style, but like the aesthetic of some on ours. Depends on the spoiler I guess also.

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Old January 25th, 2018, 03:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This! Spray the thing black and bolt it on!
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My buddy had the same one on his 3g...it's a V_line spoiler if I'm not mistaken. Looked pretty good on his too.
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Is it going to sit flush on the trunk? One side looks like the mount is not sitting flush but its hard to tell?
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Old January 29th, 2018, 02:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Is it going to sit flush on the trunk? One side looks like the mount is not sitting flush but its hard to tell?
I think it will, I just had it propped up on something that wasn't quite the right height. It's fairly flexible either way

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I think it can pass for okay. Would like to see it painted.
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Did you paint it yet?

If I wanted it the same color as the car, I would have it painted at a body shop where they could match the paint exactly. Too many times I've seen paint just a shade off and my eyes go directly to that.

I agree with Saber "It might look cool in the same colour as your badging on the rear". Then you don't have to worry about matching the paint to the car, and you could also add some black detailing, striping or decals to it.

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the Kalapana black is a must.
personally think its a bit tall, but if painted correctly it should look nice. dont worry too much about the aspects of what the wing does, unless you're actually racing it....legally.
an aggressive downforce wing will also hit your fuel consumption on long trips, so i'd leave it of if you're driving cross country an awful lot. otherwise you're not usually driving fast enough to use the wing properly anyways.

so if you think it looks nice, do it.
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I think it looks good in the last two pictures , looks tall straight on from the back , but I concur it would look awesome in whatever color your badging is , love that color !
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I think it looks good in the last two pictures , looks tall straight on from the back , but I concur it would look awesome in whatever color your badging is , love that color !
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I just bought an 07 and he took the wing off I need help getting it back on lol
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Pretty much ! Spend far too much time on here and a lot of the stuff I'm searching seems to be old news 😞
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