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Old June 10th, 2018, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey folks,
Did a money shift today and over revved the engine
3rd to 2nd right around 80mph/redline and the tach went straight up to 8k rpm in no time. Stayed there for about half a second before I kicked in the clutch and put the car in neutral.

Luckily I dodged a bullet since there were no immediate repercussions. No odd noises, no odd smells, nothing leaking underneath the car. Car is driving normally as if nothing happened.

I'm still considering doing a compression test at a friend's shop when I get an oil change in about 2 weeks. Even if there were no noticeable damages when it over revved that doesn't mean there are no damages at all. But it could've been A LOT worse lol. Luckily these engines (v6) are pretty reliable and built tough.

Anyone else do this in their 4g? If so, did you notice any problems related to the over revving later on?
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Old June 10th, 2018, 06:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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GS or GT? I've known people to rev out the GS to 8200rpm with just upgraded valve springs. I personally rev mine to 7600
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Old June 10th, 2018, 06:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's the GT.
She's still going strong with nothing apparently wrong. Been driving her for a few errands here and there.
Where's the redline for the GS? 8.2k is pretty high!
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Jelous of you GT guys... sounds like the gearing ratio is a lot better, in my gs I’m already in 5th gear going 50 mph (shifting at 3000 usually) and couldent imagine making it anywhere near 80 in 3rd maybe not even 4th
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I think 6800 is the stock fuel cut, redline drawn at 6500

@Mason, 5th on the GS and 6th on the GT are pretty similar when the final drive is taken into account. Just be happy you've got the strongest transmission in the Eclipse family
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Yea yea, but having to shift out of first and like 10 mph is obnoxious sometimes, and idk what the cause of this is (probably just being a new stick driver) but often times in first the car bucks for lack of a better term. With unchanging throttle input the rpms bounce up and down and the car jerks a little bit.. my thought was clutch slipping but I have like a 3 month old clutch so idk
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I feel like the car shouldn't buck around in first if the throttle input stays exactly the same. Sometimes even the smallest bumps in the road can change the throttle input your foot is giving to the pedal. If the throttle input is exactly the same then I'm not sure what the problem could be.
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Hey folks,
Did a money shift today and over revved the engine
3rd to 2nd right around 80mph/redline and the tach went straight up to 8k rpm in no time. Stayed there for about half a second before I kicked in the clutch and put the car in neutral.

Luckily I dodged a bullet since there were no immediate repercussions. No odd noises, no odd smells, nothing leaking underneath the car. Car is driving normally as if nothing happened.

I'm still considering doing a compression test at a friend's shop when I get an oil change in about 2 weeks. Even if there were no noticeable damages when it over revved that doesn't mean there are no damages at all. But it could've been A LOT worse lol. Luckily these engines (v6) are pretty reliable and built tough.

Anyone else do this in their 4g? If so, did you notice any problems related to the over revving later on?
Keep in mind that once you “float” valve springs, they are irreparably harmed, and will tolerate even less RPM going forward. So, it sounds like you dodged a bullet, but the odds of you doing that again get progressively worse each time you over rev...
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Keep in mind that once you “float” valve springs, they are irreparably harmed, and will tolerate even less RPM going forward. So, it sounds like you dodged a bullet, but the odds of you doing that again get progressively worse each time you over rev...
For sure.
In the midst of me shifting I accidentally grabbed the shift knob the wrong way. Grabbed it the same way I would as if I were going from 1 to 2 which put extra 'pull' towards left side of the shifter, causing the 3 to 2.
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GTs with stock valvetrains can safely run up to ~7500rpm. Beyond that it gets progressively more dangerous. Mine is set to 7200. At that speed you're really not making any power so it's just for fun really

Glad to hear your car didn't blow up. Would've been a bit of a bummer lol
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