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Old June 29th, 2020, 10:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Will bleeding brakes get rid of air in master cylinder?

Guys, quick question... Will bleeding all four brakes get rid of the air in the master cylinder? Or is there a specific method of removing air in the master cylinder?
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Old June 29th, 2020, 02:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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MK4MK6 says it will with a vacuum bleeder. He's swapped all the 4G Eclipse brake stuff into a Galant, including the master and ABS block, so he's a good resource on that
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Old June 30th, 2020, 12:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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MK4MK6 says it will with a vacuum bleeder. He's swapped all the 4G Eclipse brake stuff into a Galant, including the master and ABS block, so he's a good resource on that
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Old June 30th, 2020, 09:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah, by messaging him on here. He was just at work, I was texting him
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Old July 1st, 2020, 10:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah, by messaging him on here. He was just at work, I was texting him
I tried, said the user didn't exist?
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Sorry man totally forgot about this. Leave everything as is. Get a hand operated vacuum bleeder and take the line that goes here. Put your vacuum hose over that and start sucking and sucking until itís coming out. Better with someone else too. Bolt it back on tight and go inside and press the clutch. Try it again if Clutch is soft. After I did this mine went from super soft to having a ton of resistance like normal.


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I have an automatic bro. Also, I wanted to ask, if I were to replace my ABS module, do I have to get the same number that's on there?
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I ordered a new Master Cylinder for the car, so I'm just going to bench bleed it before putting it on, so no worries. Thanks for the reply.
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I ordered a new Master Cylinder for the car, so I'm just going to bench bleed it before putting it on, so no worries. Thanks for the reply.

Oh you mean the brake master cylinder. Once you put it in, top off with fluid and well bleed all four lines with car turned on. Thatís what Iíd do.


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Oh you mean the brake master cylinder. Once you put it in, top off with fluid and well bleed all four lines with car turned on. Thatís what Iíd do.


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Okay cool. Also, what about replacing the ABS module? Do I have to get the exact same number that is on the pump? Or will any number do? Mine is 4670A271.

Just in case I do have to replace it, if the master cylinder doesn't fix the problem.
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Okay cool. Also, what about replacing the ABS module? Do I have to get the exact same number that is on the pump? Or will any number do? Mine is 4670A271.

Just in case I do have to replace it, if the master cylinder doesn't fix the problem.

Whatís your problem exactly? And I donít think there will be an exact same number. Theyíre prob different but you do need to make sure to get an Auto ABS module. Auto and Manual ABS modules are different. Also you need and ABS/SRS device to reset it put it to work and that way you also donít get a ABS light for it not working.


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What’s your problem exactly? And I don’t think there will be an exact same number. They’re prob different but you do need to make sure to get an Auto ABS module. Auto and Manual ABS modules are different. Also you need and ABS/SRS device to reset it put it to work and that way you also don’t get a ABS light for it not working.


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Brakes aren't performing like they should, they're making this weird grinding noise when pressed on and feels as if there isn't enough pressure being applied between the rotor and pads. I bled the system completely and made sure there was no air. I ordered a master cylinder today form Rockauto, so hopefully this is the only problem, but now I'm guessing maybe it could also be the ABS after doing more research. so if I do go down that route, I just want to make sure I get the right information before I order the wrong one.

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What’s your problem exactly? And I don’t think there will be an exact same number. They’re prob different but you do need to make sure to get an Auto ABS module. Auto and Manual ABS modules are different. Also you need and ABS/SRS device to reset it put it to work and that way you also don’t get a ABS light for it not working.


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Brakes aren't performing like they should, they're making this weird grinding noise when pressed on and feels as if there isn't enough pressure being applied between the rotor and pads. I bled the system completely and made sure there was no air. I ordered a master cylinder today form Rockauto, so hopefully this is the only problem, but now I'm guessing maybe it could also be the ABS after doing more research. so if I do go down that route, I just want to make sure I get the right information before I order the wrong one.
Grinding noise has nothing to do with air in lines or master cylinder or ABS module

Check pads, calipers, and rotors
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Grinding noise has nothing to do with air in lines or master cylinder or ABS module

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No, basically it's intermittent. Sometimes it does it and sometimes it doesn't, which is weird. I can go a week without it, then all of a sudden it comes back, so there has to be a fault either in the master cylinder not working correctly or the ABS pump turning on and off, or a valve getting stuck sometimes or not is my guess. I have new rotors, pads and even bought new calipers and made sure the caliper slide pins are greased correctly.
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No, basically it's intermittent. Sometimes it does it and sometimes it doesn't, which is weird. I can go a week without it, then all of a sudden it comes back, so there has to be a fault either in the master cylinder not working correctly or the ABS pump turning on and off, or a valve getting stuck sometimes or not is my guess. I have new rotors, pads and even bought new calipers and made sure the caliper slide pins are greased correctly.
Is it a kind of rotational dragging noise? Coming from the rear? Then it’s the parking brake shoes, mine does this sometimes especially on corners
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Is it a kind of rotational dragging noise? Coming from the rear? Then itís the parking brake shoes, mine does this sometimes especially on corners
No, it's actually coming from the front. It's hard to explain, but basically I feel there's not enough pressure being applied, and it doesn't happen all the time, which is why I think the ABS pump is failing to some degree. But the master cylinder should be coming tomorrow, so I'm going to install that and see if the problem persists.
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