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Old February 9th, 2015, 07:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question is this cold air intake worth buying?

Before you all kill me, i have searched this forum up and down and cannot find any info on this CAI , just curious to if anyone has run this one, and wondering if its any good?

Mitsubishi Eclipse 06-08 GT V6 MT Performance Cold Air Intake SOHC / Filter

here it is on ebay even cheaper

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Haven't seen this before but if your looking for a cheap alternative the piping looks ok. The filter looks extremely cheap and next to useless. I would worry about hydrolocking the engine with that cheap filter.
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Injen sells a hydro-shield that wraps around the filter element to block water from entering. It's not supposed to restrict airflow either. You could try that.
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hmm, thanks for the reply you guys, i thought the piping looks good as well, i wonder if i could buy a better filter for it to avoid possible hydrolocking of the engine? Injen is just so damn expensive and that is why i was looking for a alternative. Seems like all the top name brand stuff was so much cheaper for my 2G when i built that lol.

I also saw other CAI that did not put the filter so far down, im wondering if i should go with a short ram to avoid all this possible hydrolocking. I will do a bit more searching on here and see peoples opinions. But seems like to me short ram is just pointless if you ask my opinion.
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I doubt you'll see any noticeable difference in performance/sound between a name brand design and a generic eBay one, so if you're on a budget it may be a smart buy. That being said, I've driven through a solid foot of water in my lowered G5 equipped with an Injen CAI to no ill effect. Not necessarily saying the 4G will react in the same way, but that's just my personal experience with water fording.
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I doubt you'll see any noticeable difference in performance/sound between a name brand design and a generic eBay one, so if you're on a budget it may be a smart buy. That being said, I've driven through a solid foot of water in my lowered G5 equipped with an Injen CAI to no ill effect. Not necessarily saying the 4G will react in the same way, but that's just my personal experience with water fording.
i agree, to me it does not really matter if its name brand or not, for example this injen CAI looks really no different besides being a 2 piece, nothing would stop this one from causing hydrolocking either.

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$316 seems a bit steep for an intake imo. If you're that worried about hydrolocking, you might want to consider going with an SRI setup, you just need to find a way to isolate the filter element from the rest of the engine bay or face dealing with heat soak. Excessive heat may rob power and possibly even cause knocking and damage the engine, but if you stay out of WOT, your MPGs should go up a bit.
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$316 seems a bit steep for an intake imo. If you're that worried about hydrolocking, you might want to consider going with an SRI setup, you just need to find a way to isolate the filter element from the rest of the engine bay or face dealing with heat soak. Excessive heat may rob power and possibly even cause knocking and damage the engine, but if you stay out of WOT, your MPGs should go up a bit.
yeah i could go with something like this K N 69 Series Red Typhoon Air Intake System 06 11 Mitsubishi Eclipse 3 8L V6 | eBay

but then again that is way up there in price.

and this one way up there in price Injen SP1867P Cold Air Intake SP Series Intake System Mitsubishi Eclipse | eBay

i may just go with that cheap one and maybe modify it a bit to avoid having water getting into the filter. I could even try cutting like 2 to 3 inches off the bottom of the pipe to allow the filter to come up a bit more, for $55 for the cheap one, i would be willing to try that also lol
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if you would like to check my car out, here is my other thread to where i just posted pics of my car, i just bought it last week, was patient and looked for a car for almost 3 months, i think it paid off, got a good deal, i think so anyways

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after doing a bit more searching, im going to order this one

Stainless Washable Cone Filter Cold Air Intake 06 10 Eclipse GT V6 Red Aluminum | eBay

its the cheap one but in red, then im going to buy a k&N filter for it, found them cheap as well.
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so what, about 2hp gain? if that?

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Installing this intake system is dyno-proven to provide a +16.1 HP and +13.4 TQ gain.
having a hard time believing that.
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so what, about 2hp gain? if that?



having a hard time believing that.
if you gain any at all, thats just Injen saying things like usual to get you to buy there product, just sounds alot better having one on in my opinion,when comparing it to the stock air box lol.

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DC Sports runs the same one piece pipe design and just the design on the support bracket has a lot of stress and just snaps off (happened 3 times with my DC Sports) so I went to Injen Short Ram and haven't had a single problem. Sounds like a beast too.
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I didn't think anyone ever believed those numbers, where they came up with them is anyone's guess. Intakes sound like they'd be making more power because the stock resonator/s would be deleted in the install. You might gain a drop more at the top end.
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DC Sports runs the same one piece pipe design and just the design on the support bracket has a lot of stress and just snaps off (happened 3 times with my DC Sports) so I went to Injen Short Ram and haven't had a single problem. Sounds like a beast too.
you have a link to the short ram one you got? just so i have the link lol.

I purchased the red one last night that looks like the DC sports one, for $55, hell, i will give it a shot lol, (not using the filter that comes with it tho) i got a K&N filter. and like i said if it does not work well i will try to modify it. And if all fails, i will just break down and get the Injen one. thank you
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this is from injen... interesting... I wonder if most of the gain came from removing the air resiviuor, which IMO chokes the shit out of the intake. Also I've always wondered about the aluminum absorbing heat more than the plastic/rubber.

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The first intake I bought for my gt was an ebay one and I found out after installed that I was throwing codes, the piping was to large around the MAF and causing the light to come on. if the intake tubing is 3" at the MAF you may have a problem. I switched and bought a Injen cold air and have had no issuse at all
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You have to remember, CAI like Injen, Fujita, and AEM have been made and tuned to our engines, I.E. tested to work with our engines for performance and reliability. I've only been on this site for a few years; however, I've seen so few people run into problems with these intakes, and if there was a problem it was due to a installation problem that was quickly fixed.

Not all CAI are made the same let alone test and tuned for our engines... you get what you pay for.

A good CAI will give you HP gains of 12HP to 15HP...
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I just bought a Injen CAI for $250 shipped.
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A good CAI will give you HP gains of 12HP to 15HP...


how much of those gains come from removing air reservoirs and air resonators alone? 50%? 30% hard to say. Does anyone have a dyno of before and after removing the air resonator in the 2.4L?
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Well i installed my ebay CAI today, the red one. Seems good so far. And damn does it sound like a beast now lol, pretty damn intimidating to others if you ask me lol along with my cat back greddy exhaust my car sounds even better now. Got a nice growl under the hood now lol and got a nice throaty sound from the back. Only have had this car for a month and only drove it roughly 9 times due to the roads not being dry with nothing on them. But damn i love this car!!
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car seems to idle a little rough now since the CAI install, im thinking the vacuum line going to the intake should be plugged and not connected to the duty cycle air valve?

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update: the more research I do the more I do not think its the vacuum line. I think the CAI is 3 inches right at the MAF and needs to be 2 3/4, is this correct?

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Correct put a plug on the hose that goes to the intake manifold.

The duty cycle air valve can be disconnected and removed, it serves no purpose now, just tape off the connector to prevent dirt and water from gettin into it.

Once again, not all CAI are made the same. We have seen un-tuned intakes that creates air tubulence over the MAF/IAT Sensor and will cause a rough idle. But once you plug the intake manifold hose things should run better.
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well that did not fix the issue, matter in fact it finally threw a CEL, and it was something to do with the maf. So tomorrow after work i am taking the CAI off and throwing it in the garbage and buy the injen one maybe next month, buying the 2009 oem round spoiler for it now, i do not like the shark style lol to square for our cars.

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well that did not fix the issue, matter in fact it finally threw a CEL, and it was something to do with the maf. So tomorrow after work i am taking the CAI off and throwing it in the garbage and buy the injen one maybe next month, buying the 2009 oem round spoiler for it now, i do not like the shark style lol to square for our cars.

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Sorry your intake setup didn't work, you should send it back for a refund. That's the trouble with E-bay parts, they are most are made in China for a quick buck. Fujita when they first came out would break were the bracket was located. But with a tuned intake, its been test to make sure the air flow goes across the MAF Sensor correctly. Might be pricey, but you get what you pay for...
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To me, aftermarket CAI's are pretty much the same when it comes to functionality and you can expect 0-2 hp gain.
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LOL!! First all CAI's are made the same!!

Second, do a search on CAI's, we have gains of 12 to 15 HP gains!!

2HP, LOL!!

With my current modes I'm running 290WHP, stock I was running at 218WHP, you tell me were all my HP gains came from...
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actually just watched a good video recently on a correctly tuned ford CAI that added 20hp. need to look that up for you all.


but with bolt on only and no retune, yeah 5hp at most. I know they says all the ECU stuff is closed loop and all but the dyno dont lie.




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I have a hard time with intakes and where I stand. Part of me wants to believe that they create more power, and the sound is undeniable, but the realist in me got the better of me when I bought a injen CAI. First of all the injen was topnotch fitment and look wise, and have considered getting another one for the sound. However once installed, I was sucking down gas like crazy! I babied it when I had it on, more than I have ever babied it, and was only ever able to get a best of 19 MPG... compared to an average of 24/26 depending on how I drive. It felt quicker, I'm not sure about 15 hp quicker, but quicker. It could have been placebo too. You buy something, and you wan't to believe you are getting whats advertised. I wish there was some solid testing, to show that more power was made untuned, but nobody would pay to have it dynoed. Plus these damn wizardy ECU's that we have, one guy might make power with a CAI, and the next guy with a different year might not, it all depends. To get the best of both worlds, I fabricated a delete tube for the hose after the MAF. Sounds a little throatier, and did not affect the MPG in any noticeable way.
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If you want some of your MPG back change your plugs, 100,000 is just a recommendation for changing our plugs.

Even with/without my CAI I was getting 22MPG, I drive my car hard!! Now I'm down to 20MPG at 50,000 miles, sounds like I can due with some new plugs also. Just because?? Also my best highway MPG was 33.5MPG, with 93 Oct.

Do a search for Dyno results and CAI Dyno results, gosh, there has been so many posts on this, it's hard to believe that some people still don't believe the 15HP for a GT and 12HP for a GS.

I think it was Mulder who quoted, "The truth is out there".
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shit. some dude had a couple mods and was 1hp more than a guy stock dyno. albeit he said it was 100 degrees outside. All this aside I may consider getting an Injen intake now. I have recently decided to keep my esclipse instead of buying a 3rd mustang. I'll be getting a 2nd motor cycle instead and mods will be coming after the bike purchase.

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Heat is a killer when it comes to gas mileage and HP.

If you do only one mod, like a CAI, and fail to install a high-flow muffler then you are defeating the purpose of the CAI. Stock mufflers are very restrictive.

Many cars do not make that much HP with a CAI installed. We have had this discussion with other members as well as trolls from other sites. Mitsu does make 12 to 15 HP providing you don't have a stock muffler.

You might even want to check out RIPP Mods videos on U-Tube.
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i am really thinking about going with this one K N 69 Series Red Typhoon Air Intake System 06 11 Mitsubishi Eclipse 3 8L V6 | eBay

instead of the Injen one.
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i am really thinking about going with this one K N 69 Series Red Typhoon Air Intake System 06 11 Mitsubishi Eclipse 3 8L V6 | eBay

instead of the Injen one.
K&N has a rebate going for these right now. I'm not sure if you have to buy from an authorized seller to get it, but $277 seems to be the going rate most places now.
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I modified the Ebay CAI, check this out ---> https://club4g.org/board/2006-2012-ec...ml#post1594866
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