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Old June 11th, 2012, 01:30 PM   #81 (permalink)
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does anyone know how to take off the fuel door on my 2007 gs eclipse? I want to swap it out with a different one. I heard thier are screws thier but when i opend up the fuel door thier were no visiable screws.....
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there are three bolts inside the door, surrounding the gas tank nozzle. I'll take a picture on my lunch break and show you.
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I know that on my 2009 eclipse there are visible screws that you can unscrew to take it off, I don't know about the 07

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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:09 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Yo jhun, about your tb thread, does putting on a custom 65mm tb on a gs reduce your mpg? Along with some of the other mods you described, jw.

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Well I will say this, from my personal experience and others who have dyno'd. Without a tune the gt 65mm tb will cause you to lose power. You gain better throttle response, which gives the illusion that you gain power, but you truly lose it. I've noticed it takes longer to get to 130mph then it did before all my mods. Mainly because I need a tune. Now after reflash, it'll be a whole nother ball game. As far as mpg goes, you won't notice a difference as long as you don't always drive like crazy fast.
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So switching out the throttle body won't add more power??? I thought you said it would??

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It will add more power, but not until you tune. It gives more low end tq and throttle response before and after tune.
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Oh ok, got you, so do u really thinks its worth the upgrade then?

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absolutely. Especially after reflash or FIC. The stock one is just too small. Shoot i'm considering going even bigger than the one I have now.
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absolutely. Especially after reflash or FIC. The stock one is just too small. Shoot i'm considering going even bigger than the one I have now.
that thought has crossed my mind as well.i would love for someone to send me a proflow tb just to try on my gs for a week ..if it worked out,well i know what i would be buying next !
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that thought has crossed my mind as well.i would love for someone to send me a proflow tb just to try on my gs for a week ..if it worked out,well i know what i would be buying next !
Get with animefreak, I believe he's working on a project to do with that.
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Ight I got you jhun, so your car won't register the difference at all until you give it a tune? Or incorporate the FIC?

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The ecu tries it's best to take any mod you do, and convert the air flow back to stock readings. that's just the way learning ecu's work. but after reflash or fic, the ecu will be running accordingly.
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Ight I got you, and the FIC is something you would have to buy and then use? And then what, it just hooks up to ur car somewhere and reprograms it?

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in your case, well honestly in anyones case, the reflash by hackish is the way to go. the fic just tricks the ecu, the reflash actually changes the ecu itself. Hackish, a member on here, does the reflash for $500 plus the cost of you to buy your own tactrix cable. give me asec and I'll go find the reflash thread for you to read through
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i updated the original post with a more broad overview.
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Jhun you should include upgrading the grounding wire in this.
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That's a good idea. Maybe if Snake will help me write a good explanation of it I can get it in here.
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Had someone ask me the other day which battery they should use for the gs. I wadnt sure so i said optima red top. Any chance we can get something added in here regarding reccomended battery? Im not talking about the manufacturer reccomended one. I mean something that will be able to handle a little more than a stock gs would require
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Well I will say this, from my personal experience and others who have dyno'd. Without a tune the gt 65mm tb will cause you to lose power. You gain better throttle response, which gives the illusion that you gain power, but you truly lose it. I've noticed it takes longer to get to 130mph then it did before all my mods. Mainly because I need a tune. Now after reflash, it'll be a whole nother ball game. As far as mpg goes, you won't notice a difference as long as you don't always drive like crazy fast.
Yo, so to get the best response and performance from all your new mods, would you HAVE to get a reflash by hackish? Or could you just go to a shop and have them tune everything and get the same result?

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Yo, so to get the best response and performance from all your new mods, would you HAVE to get a reflash by hackish? Or could you just go to a shop and have them tune everything and get the same result?

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Well... I personally wouldn't take it to a shop. First off, you'd need a piggyback device in order for them to tune it (Aem FIC) and that's a good $500 already... THEN, you'd have to pay the shop for dyno/tune time and that would run you another 5-6 hundred... And at times, they don't do such a great job, although few do great jobs. The purpose of getting the FIC is to do it yourself basically or have BrianJ tune it for you for a fee. Another thing, the FIC tells the ECU what to do.. Which in some cases after a while might not be the best thing (see JoeyB's ride for reference)
Now... On another note. Hackish reflash, it goes like this. You get the Tactrix Cable, and then pay the $500 fee that Hackish asks for. He tunes the ECU directly, therefore there's no piggyback telling the ECU what to do, which technically is way better.. I personally have the reflash by Hackish. He gives you a basic good tune for the modifications that you have.. My personal opinion is this... Have your full bolt on setup and then reflash. You want to get the best results out of eeeeevery single mod you've done. An intake and exhaust won't give you that much more power.
But, yet again... There are options for a reason.. I would personally go with Hackish.. As I'm satisfied with my reflash and I can vouch that it gives you more power all along the rpm line.
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Well... I personally wouldn't take it to a shop. First off, you'd need a piggyback device in order for them to tune it (Aem FIC) and that's a good $500 already... THEN, you'd have to pay the shop for dyno/tune time and that would run you another 5-6 hundred... And at times, they don't do such a great job, although few do great jobs. The purpose of getting the FIC is to do it yourself basically or have BrianJ tune it for you for a fee. Another thing, the FIC tells the ECU what to do.. Which in some cases after a while might not be the best thing (see JoeyB's ride for reference)
Now... On another note. Hackish reflash, it goes like this. You get the Tactrix Cable, and then pay the $500 fee that Hackish asks for. He tunes the ECU directly, therefore there's no piggyback telling the ECU what to do, which technically is way better.. I personally have the reflash by Hackish. He gives you a basic good tune for the modifications that you have.. My personal opinion is this... Have your full bolt on setup and then reflash. You want to get the best results out of eeeeevery single mod you've done. An intake and exhaust won't give you that much more power.
But, yet again... There are options for a reason.. I would personally go with Hackish.. As I'm satisfied with my reflash and I can vouch that it gives you more power all along the rpm line.
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Sweet, ight gser thanks for the insight, that was a great and detailed answer, I completely understand now, so in due time when I'm complete, I will go with hackish's reflash, thanks man.
Now when its time for him to reflash it, how does he do it? Bcuz obviously we live in different states, so does he require that I disconnect the ecu and mail it to him, or what. And also about how long did the whole process take you?
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Sweet, ight gser thanks for the insight, that was a great and detailed answer, I completely understand now, so in due time when I'm complete, I will go with hackish's reflash, thanks man.
Now when its time for him to reflash it, how does he do it? Bcuz obviously we live in different states, so does he require that I disconnect the ecu and mail it to him, or what. And also about how long did the whole process take you?
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It's in my response, you need a tactrix cable.. When you purchase the reflash, they send you an email with procedures and program to download. With this cable and the program, you will read your ECU and it will be uploaded to their server. Hackish will then look at the file and tweak it here and there based on the files he already has and the modifications you have. Then, when he's done... He sends you a modified file, you read this file with the cable back to your ECU and boom. Done.
The process itself of flashing takes 30 seconds. Hackish tuning your file and all, can take up to two weeks or so IF he doesn't have a file for your set of modifications. Jhun got his first tune in a few hours. I got mine in a week or so.. It all depends. Taking in account that he works with many other forums also, he has many files to tune, etc.
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It's in my response, you need a tactrix cable.. When you purchase the reflash, they send you an email with procedures and program to download. With this cable and the program, you will read your ECU and it will be uploaded to their server. Hackish will then look at the file and tweak it here and there based on the files he already has and the modifications you have. Then, when he's done... He sends you a modified file, you read this file with the cable back to your ECU and boom. Done.
The process itself of flashing takes 30 seconds. Hackish tuning your file and all, can take up to two weeks or so IF he doesn't have a file for your set of modifications. Jhun got his first tune in a few hours. I got mine in a week or so.. It all depends. Taking in account that he works with many other forums also, he has many files to tune, etc.

wow, I had no idea it works like that, thanks, I understand better. I guess when I get to that point then I will pm you if I have more questions, thanks man.




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hey this thread is perfect. 2 questions. first off is the 4G69 motor the same one used right through the 4th gen cycle? im assuming yes. if so then my ride has a busy winter in the shop. secondly the aem fic how bad can that be on a engine with stock internals? im assuming the airway needs to be opened up if that controller is installed. great thread dude, great thread.
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hey this thread is perfect. 2 questions. first off is the 4G69
Huh? You have to finish your question lol

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Hey man the 4g69 is the engine all 4g Gs's have. It's shared with multiple Mitsu platforms. The fic just allows you to tune your car. Your car can be completely stock and the fic with a good tune will boost you 20-30hp. Same for the ecu reflash. So no upgrades are needed. It.just allows you to get the best possible out of your car before and after a new mod is added.

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Hey man the 4g69 is the engine all 4g Gs's have. It's shared with multiple Mitsu platforms. The fic just allows you to tune your car. Your car can be completely stock and the fic with a good tune will boost you 20-30hp. Same for the ecu reflash. So no upgrades are needed. It.just allows you to get the best possible out of your car before and after a new mod is added.

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sweet thanks for the info jhun35! and thank you for contributing cuban soldier lol. I'll remember to finish the questions first!
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sweet thanks for the info jhun35! and thank you for contributing cuban soldier lol. I'll remember to finish the questions first!
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How safe is the TB bypass?
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As far as I can tell, empirically, there are only two things that can go wrong with it.

1. The bypass leaks and your engine overheats, worst case you buy a new engine (stop worrying and keep reading!).
2. The throttle position electric motor overheats from a lack of coolant and you have to replace the throttle body.

I don't think either case has been reported...ever...at least not on here. If you don't do something right, you can ruin your engine, this is true of something as simple as an oil change, replacing sparks plugs, etc...

Mine leaked initially but it was immediately obvious and it was because I had the wrong size coupler. You need a 3/8" I.D. coupler, OR you route one piece of hose from block to block and don't use a coupler. I didn't feel like my hose was long enough to do that and I wasn't going to let it crimp.
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Alright thanks, i'm probably getting an Injen CAI, and the GT TB, and was gonna bypass it if it wasn't to dangerous to the car.
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