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Old December 1st, 2019, 09:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Timing belt

Is it advised to change the timing belt at certain mileage? Car only has 67,000 miles but better safe than sorry, thanks for any input
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Old December 1st, 2019, 09:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What year is the car? It’s never been done?
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Old December 1st, 2019, 09:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Manufacture Recommendation for 06-09 was 60,000 if I recall. Your timing belt is at minimum 7 years old if you have a 2012. Getting it changed wouldn't be a bad idea for the peace of mind for the simple fact of age being an issue.

Just checked your post history, I see you have an 07 meaning your timing belt is 12 years old. I would highly advice you replace it. Even if you get a vehicle with 10 miles on it, the years will wear on rubber just as much as putting 100,000 miles on it. Remember, if you don't change it, and the belt goes, so does the engine. We have interference engines, that timing belt breaks at 4,000 RPM's, your engine is toast.

Also a heads up, you can add your vehicle year and type in your profile by going to User CP at the top of the page, clicking 'Edit Your Details' on the list on the left hand side and towards the bottom of the page is a spot to put your 'Type of car: Year/Model/Trim'. It would help for any future questions you have coming up.
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Old December 2nd, 2019, 05:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It’s a 2007 and I’m unsure if it’s been done or not I’m going to have it done as a precautionary
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Old December 2nd, 2019, 05:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I’ll edit my info thanks for
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Old December 3rd, 2019, 08:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You're on borrowed time if it hasn't been done by a previous owner. 2016 would be the latest any belt manufacturer would put it as good until, 2013 by Mitsubishi if it's your OEM one.

Typically, a long life belt is 9 years (09+ came with those) and a regular life belt is 6 years (06-08 had those).
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Old December 3rd, 2019, 10:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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You're on borrowed time if it hasn't been done by a previous owner. 2016 would be the latest any belt manufacturer would put it as good until, 2013 by Mitsubishi if it's your OEM one.

Typically, a long life belt is 9 years (09+ came with those) and a regular life belt is 6 years (06-08 had those).
What are the Gates and Dayco belts considered? Long or regular life?
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Old December 3rd, 2019, 12:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I know gates does 9 year belts for our cars, as that's the factory belt.

Dayco, I'm not sure, and can't find any info from them on their website.You'd need to contact them
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Glad I asked I will have it done before spring, the car is a bday present for my daughter turning 16 February 1st and it will just be sitting in the garage until spring, I’ve already talked to a shop about doing it
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Make sure they don't charge you something crazy like $600. Once you've done it a couple times, it's about a 1-1.5h job
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Make sure they don't charge you something crazy like $600. Once you've done it a couple times, it's about a 1-1.5h job
How much is a good price for the labor of doing a timing belt on this car? It's certainly harder than my Subaru EJ205 timing belt
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Old December 4th, 2019, 09:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It's really pretty simple if you compare it to our big bro 6g75 or our cousin vr4. I guess after doing it so many times it becomes like changing your oil. If you're so inclined, you could probably do it yourself.
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07 GT I’ve clocked 230K miles and timing belt was changed at 160K mile mark. I pulled out original Mitsu belt and it looked clean and no cracks. Btw, I always drive around 80miles, went 140 few times

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How much is a good price for the labor of doing a timing belt on this car? It's certainly harder than my Subaru EJ205 timing belt
I paid $701 for my mechanic to replace the whole kit. Water pump, tensioner, belt, the whole gates kit.
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I’ve already looked up labor time it only calls for 2.3 hours , I do all my own work generally but I’ve never done a timing belt.
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Old December 5th, 2019, 08:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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$450-$550 is prettymuch in the ballpark. Some shops will go cheaper, many will extort people into much higher, I've seen over $1000 quoted

Shopping around will be rewarding. There aren't really any tricks to the 4G69 timing system, it's actually one of the nicest. This may look like a lot, but it's a literal step by step with a lot of hand holding

1A: Remove passenger wheel
1B: drain the coolant system
2: crack loose water pump pulley
3: crack loose the crank pulley
4: Place a jack with something like a piece of wood on it under the oil pan (to disperse the weight over a larger surface area)
5: Remove the passenger side motor mount
6: remove upper timing cover
7: Turn motor to where the upper and lower timing marks (notch on crank pulley, and notch on cam pulley) line up with their timing marks (valve cover has a mark, and lower timing cover has a mark).
8: Remove crank pulley
9: remove lower timing cover and take a picture of the timing assembly for reference on how to re-assemble
10: unbolt the auto tensioner
11: Unbolt the manual tensioners
12: remove old timing belt
13: remove balance shaft belt
13B: remove old water pump, clean the surface, and apply the new water pump (if changing
14: Remove manual tensioners
15: put on new manual tensioners
16: Put on new auto tensioner, but do not pull the pin
17: Check the timing marks haven't moved, then apply the balance shaft belt
18: Check the timing marks haven't moved, and apply the timing belt.
19: Tighten the auto tensioners with tension placed on the belt, making sure the timing marks still align (you may have to play a bit here)
20: Tighten the tensioners, and release the auto tensioner. If done right, the pin should have no resistance coming out, and should go back in without issue (the ram shouldn't extend, being my point. The manual tensioners should be holding the belt 100% the the auto as a backup if something fails)

21: Congratulations, you timed an engine! Re-assemble, and remember it's a lot easier to torque the pulleys with the serpentine belt on.

For torquing the crank pulley bolt, you may need to place the vehicle on the ground and do it in gear. I forget how I did it. Medium strength thread lock is also an asset here, as if this bolt backs out, your engine is ruined. If you need more help, I'd be happy to assist more
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Saber tooth how much should I be charged to replace the AC Dessicant bag? I was quoted $350, is removing the bumper required?
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I'm honestly not sure. My AC experience is very limited, mostly relating to removing AC components en mass
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I'm not very sure about that either, but I do know that you can very easily take out the AC condenser by removing the radiator if that helps at all.
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Reason I asked is because the reason my AC didn’t work this year was because apparently there’s a leak found by a dye test on the connection nipple off of the dessicant bag, which I bought a new one of and was supposed to be replaced when I had all of the seals fixed on the car the first time for $350, but the mechanic said that it looked original and I said that he said he was going to replace it the first time but he couldn’t remember
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I’ve spend 250$ for Gates water pump, pulleys, timing belt, alternator belt, and power steering belt. I DID it myself and still runs like new and no noises. about 60K miles ago
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On its way for timing belt replacement! My daughter is super excited to start driving it this weekend
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mine was done at 160k, old belt looked ok but they recommend new belt around 100k
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Getting my timing belt replaced tomorrow. Had the OE replaced around 2012, I think. The OEM are made by Gates?
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Getting my timing belt replaced tomorrow. Had the OE replaced around 2012, I think. The OEM are made by Gates?
Yes use Gates kit

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