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Old December 6th, 2012, 10:55 PM   #81 (permalink)
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-16 offset on a 10" wide wheel???

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Would I have a problem running a 28x10.0-16 drags up front, im thinking on spacers ill be ok
spacers on addition to the -16? o.O

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because even then you wouldnt need spacers
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Ok, I just read through the whole thread trying to find a description of what exactly offset and camber is, and couldn't find it, so my question is can someone explain what offset is, and what camber is? I think I have a general idea, but don't know for sure. FINALLY getting into research for new rims, tires, and coilovers for next year when I get back from Afghanistan in august so I can get rid of my 40X40 status and give my car the stance it deserves, thanks guys.

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^ your car looks dope man. I love the colour a lot. You get wheels and coilovers and you got yourself one of the nicest 4gs. To answer your question about offset. Stock offset on my gt was et46 which is +46 mm from the center of the wheel. As you decrease that number it will push your wheels out towards the fender because now the hub of the wheel is sitting further back. 25mm = 1" approximately. So if you go from et46 to et20 then you've pushed your wheel out 1". Now if you go with a wider rim let's say from stock 8" to a 10" then you've added another 1" pushing out and 1" pushing in on top of whatever offset you decide on. I'm going to say that without a rear camber kit that the absolute max width you can go is 11" with a et20 offset and that's running a 235/35 tire on that rim. Get coils before wheels because they are much skinnier and you'll be able to fit wider wheels without rubbing on your stock suspension. If you want to know more then pm me. Hope that helps

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^ your car looks dope man. I love the colour a lot. You get wheels and coilovers and you got yourself one of the nicest 4gs. To answer your question about offset. Stock offset on my gt was et46 which is +46 mm from the center of the wheel. As you decrease that number it will push your wheels out towards the fender because now the hub of the wheel is sitting further back. 25mm = 1" approximately. So if you go from et46 to et20 then you've pushed your wheel out 1". Now if you go with a wider rim let's say from stock 8" to a 10" then you've added another 1" pushing out and 1" pushing in on top of whatever offset you decide on. I'm going to say that without a rear camber kit that the absolute max width you can go is 11" with a et20 offset and that's running a 235/35 tire on that rim. Get coils before wheels because they are much skinnier and you'll be able to fit wider wheels without rubbing on your stock suspension. If you want to know more then pm me. Hope that helps

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Sweet man thanks, that was the exact answer I was looking for, so the more offset you have, the bigger lip you have in your rim pretty much, and camber is the space behind the rim, got it man. And yea, once I get coils, rims, and tires, my car will look 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 better (I don't even know what you call that number, but that's what it would be) thanks a lot spyder. And my car is going to look a whooole lot different come next June, let's just say that, inside, and outside and here is a pic just for you

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No, camber is the angle your wheel sits on. 0 camber is straight, negative camber is when the top of the wheel angles inward and positive camber is when the top of the wheel angles outward. Go check out StanceNation and see how everyone rolls with negative camber. You'll notice that the wheels angle inward.
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No, camber is the angle your wheel sits on. 0 camber is straight, negative camber is when the top of the wheel angles inward and positive camber is when the top of the wheel angles outward. Go check out StanceNation and see how everyone rolls with negative camber. You'll notice that the wheels angle inward.
Oh, ok, got u, that makes sense, thanks man, so I don't really need to worry about camber, I want 0, I'm just going to need to worry about offset bcuz I want my rims to have atleast a 2 inch lip, but alright, thanks spidey
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You can easily get a 2" lip on most wheel brands. As you lower the car the camber will come naturally. If you lower the car enough, you won't be able to get 0 camber without a rear camber kit. And there isn't a rear camber kit for our cars yet. I'm working with Ksportusa on getting that made along with a few other suspension pieces.

If you go with a 2" lip try to get wheels with a flat spoke/face so that it looks like a true lip. Just my opinion. Even my wheels have a 2" lip. I'd try to go with something a little bigger like a 3.5-4" lip. The xxr 526 has a nice lip and they're not expensive. Check those out
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Here's the lip you really want

Xxr 526 20x11 offset 15... Pretty aggressive but they do make them less aggressive in 18s.
This wheel has a 5.25" lip!
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Damn, that's fucking serious lol, yea I don't want all that lol, I just want rims that have a very distinctable lip, like a 3" I guess you could say, and yea I know what you mean by keeping the face flat,I'm in the process of looking at rims but haven't come across any that REALLY blow my mind. All I know right now is I want blue and black 19" rims with at least about a 3" lip with the rim favoring the blue more than the black and something in the field of multi-spoke, just a heads up incase you come across any thanks for all your help so far, it doesn't go unappreciated.
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Not to bring this thread back to life but... I was debating about getting xxr 527 wheels in 18x8.75 35+ offset or 18x9.75 20+ offset. I currently have 245/40/18 inch tires would those work with the 18x9.75 20+ offset? Im assuming ill have to roll my fenders either way. Also I am sitting on the eibach pro kit so its only a 1.5 inch drop. Was also considering getting 245/35/18 tires would that make any difference with the 9.75 wide wheel?
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at the moment am running 225/40/18 but am looking of getting 245/45/18.. the rims are 18x8 what do you guys think or can i go wider????
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Not to bring this thread back to life but... I was debating about getting xxr 527 wheels in 18x8.75 35+ offset or 18x9.75 20+ offset. I currently have 245/40/18 inch tires would those work with the 18x9.75 20+ offset? Im assuming ill have to roll my fenders either way. Also I am sitting on the eibach pro kit so its only a 1.5 inch drop. Was also considering getting 245/35/18 tires would that make any difference with the 9.75 wide wheel?
I have 245/40's on my 10 inch wide wheel. They have a tiny stretch
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Not to bring this thread back to life but... I was debating about getting xxr 527 wheels in 18x8.75 35+ offset or 18x9.75 20+ offset. I currently have 245/40/18 inch tires would those work with the 18x9.75 20+ offset? Im assuming ill have to roll my fenders either way. Also I am sitting on the eibach pro kit so its only a 1.5 inch drop. Was also considering getting 245/35/18 tires would that make any difference with the 9.75 wide wheel?
I'm thinking of getting the same wheel what offset would work with our cars?? I been hearing that 18x9.75 20+ offset will stick out is that correct??? Post some pics if you get thus rims that would be helpful
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sorry for the delayed response, but what sizes should i go with if i want to go with 18's?
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Here's the lip you really want

Xxr 526 20x11 offset 15... Pretty aggressive but they do make them less aggressive in 18s.
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I need help

Im looking to slam my 07 4g. Not all the way but a good amount. I want 18' XXR's. These actually. [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/18-XXR-527-Gold-Wheels-w-High-Performance-Tires-NEW-/111015370830?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d908204e&vxp=mtr]18" XXR 527 Gold Wheels w High Performance Tires New | eBay
Any recommendations? I need a pros advice.
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at the moment am running 225/40/18 but am looking of getting 245/45/18.. the rims are 18x8 what do you guys think or can i go wider????
I'm running 18x9 275/35 my offset is like +35
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I have already asked some opinions on what sizes/tires to run. And I even talked to guys at discount tire and auto...I am looking at getting the XXR 527's in 18x8.75 +35 offset. I was originally looking at the same size but with the +20 offset, but the guy at discount tire and auto said that if I did the 20 offset then I would for sure rub and need some fender work. He said that the max offset I could run was like +41...so my question is...what size tires to get and if anybody has any suggestions or opinions on if I will rub?

I have a 2009 GS and suspension is all stock. I will be getting some S-Tech springs as well (coilovers are out of the budget). So with S-Tech's and a 18x8.75 +35 offset..what size tires does everybody recommend?

Any forseeable problems with rubbing or anything? Any better suggestions on what I should do????

I personally have been looking at 235/40-18 tires but I want to be sure this would be okay/look best...
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I have already asked some opinions on what sizes/tires to run. And I even talked to guys at discount tire and auto...I am looking at getting the XXR 527's in 18x8.75 +35 offset. I was originally looking at the same size but with the +20 offset, but the guy at discount tire and auto said that if I did the 20 offset then I would for sure rub and need some fender work. He said that the max offset I could run was like +41...so my question is...what size tires to get and if anybody has any suggestions or opinions on if I will rub?

I have a 2009 GS and suspension is all stock. I will be getting some S-Tech springs as well (coilovers are out of the budget). So with S-Tech's and a 18x8.75 +35 offset..what size tires does everybody recommend?

Any forseeable problems with rubbing or anything? Any better suggestions on what I should do????

I personally have been looking at 235/40-18 tires but I want to be sure this would be okay/look best...
41 offset? That's just too high. Our cars have more issues rubbing towards the inside with that kinda offset. You're on 18s with S-techs id say 245/40/18 Or 225/45/18 or 235/40 if you want to be safe .
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41 offset? That's just too high. Our cars have more issues rubbing towards the inside with that kinda offset. You're on 18s with S-techs id say 245/40/18 Or 225/45/18 or 235/40 if you want to be safe .
Yeah I think he said 41 I'm not very familiar with the whole offset stuff in general. Would the wider 245 be more likely to rub or cause more issues?

As in what would be the benefit of the wider tire? Because isnt a 245 = to like 9.6" but the rim width is 8.75"???
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Yeah I think he said 41 I'm not very familiar with the whole offset stuff in general. Would the wider 245 be more likely to rub or cause more issues?

As in what would be the benefit of the wider tire? Because isnt a 245 = to like 9.6" but the rim width is 8.75"???
245 is what's on a gt stock. Stay close to low 30s in offset you will be okay.
My rim is 9" wide and I have 275s

On that same rim I've also had 225s and 255s
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245 is what's on a gt stock. Stay close to low 30s in offset you will be okay.
My rim is 9" wide and I have 275s

On that same rim I've also had 225s and 255s
But my question is why go wider then? I mean why go like .9" wider than the rim? What purpose doees that serve, is it just for looks? If so, what would that look like
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But my question is why go wider then? I mean why go like .9" wider than the rim? What purpose doees that serve, is it just for looks? If so, what would that look like
You always have a 1.0" to play with! anything more is not gonna work. It's more rubber on the ground which is more traction and stability. My handling has increased by a lot. The rear no longer swings out when I throw her around a corner hard instead the whole car will skid instead of spinning around.
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So my lady got a deal on a new set of wheels. RUFF 18x8 et-40. I wanted her to wait and get some ideas first but she bit the bullet and there sitting on my floor. Should we mount them up or is just not going to fit? Aparently they had to drill them for her car which im fine with but im more concerned about the offset.
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Am I reading that properly -40 offset as in negative 40?? If it's negative 40 I don't think those will even fit on a lambo. But since they are Ruff wheels I'm gonna say that they're not -40 since Ruff is a modest wheel company and they don't make crazy wheels like that. If they're +40 and 8" wide then they'll fit just fine
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k i just picked up the 530 xxr rims, 18/9.75w/a 22 back spacing. will i rub the fenders with a 245/40? im also dropped on megan 1.5 springs.
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Compared to what Vehicle are our rims and tires identical to? I want a set of tires and wheels like Kevin Chu's but with the Volk TE37
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then look up Varrstoen wheels. Their Es2 wheel is a replica of the Volk Te37. Thats im rockin.
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Looked through this whole thread, and still didnt find a straight answer. I seen the question asked, and it was blown to a answer that was nuts. Simply said, I want my wheels flush with the fender. What size spacers would I need, 25mm would be my first guess.
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Stock wheels, in the rear, 25mm is right.
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if you mean bolt pattern almost all japanese makes. however nothing will be identical in terms of form fitting for the eclipse. te's and sf's are also completely different
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So i decided to go with the 245/35/20 and i like how it looks also while i was there the guy at the shop gave me a great offer on some wheels if i traded in mine so here it is[IMG][/IMG]

It was raining yesterday so the car is all dirty
Do you have any rub at all with those tires? Also, did you have to roll your fenders?
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Saw this guy from Rochester in Carlisle, he's the man. He's pushing this setup front: 19x10 et10 235/35/19, rear 19x11 et-5 235/35/19. Yes that is negative 5 on an 11" wide wheel, I saw this in person. Here's pictures



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He hasn't even pulled his fenders, only cut the inner rear lip off
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I have 18x7.5, 45mm offset wheels, for tires I was recommended 235/45/18, would this work? or is there a better/recommended size?
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