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Early Timing Belt Failure

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Thursday last week, my car stalled out while i was driving (around 35mph) and would not start again, though she tried. Throwing code P0340, Jackie had to be towed to my auto shop for after hours drop off.

Just under a year ago, i had the timing belt replaced as i did not know the maintenance history of the car, thus the age or mileage of the belt it had. Kinda really wanted to avoid timing belt failure.

Turns out the new belt (installed by this same shop) was defective, and failed Thursday. Shop said it sheered some teeth, they were going to have the supplier of the part reimburse labor, and would have to send parts to the machining shop and assess the damage. Haven't heard back about her since then.

what are the odds yall think my car survives this? i wasnt going too fast, and when i opened the hood after pulling over nothing looked immediately off.

mandatory tow photo attached :)
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Oooof man that's not good. We have interference engines, meaning if the valve timing is off or the belt goes, there is piston to valve contact (interference).

LIKELY CASE: Is bent valves and impact damage that compromises the piston integrity. Meaning the heads come off for new valves, and the bottom end comes apart for new pistons. Essentially a rebuild.

BEST CASE: If your RPMs were low enough that MIVEC wasn't active and you shut her down FAST, you may have some bent valves and very minimal piston damage/dings that you "might" be able to skirt by with. That still means the heads come off for new valves.

Given that there are 6 pistons each potentially impacting 4 valves with goobered timing, and the fragile nature of the cast pistons we have...you're probably going to find at least a couple pistons with damage that necessitates piston replacement. It's a BIG bill that hopefully gets warranteed through the parts company to cover the shop bill.

Here is a parts diagram for reference:
Engine for 2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse | Capital City Mitsubishi Parts

For a piston+rings+4 valves, you're already looking at ~$350 in parts per cylinder. That doesn't include nic'nacs like valve guides or head gaskets. Additionally, you will have an exceedingly hard time sourcing parts. I could not find flywheel bolts last summer (nationwide) as Mitsu stopped sending many parts to the U.S.. Best of luck, I really do hope you get her back on the road.
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Oooof man that's not good. We have interference engines, meaning if the valve timing is off or the belt goes, there is piston to valve contact (interference).

LIKELY CASE: Is bent valves and impact damage that compromises the piston integrity. Meaning the heads come off for new valves, and the bottom end comes apart for new pistons. Essentially a rebuild.

BEST CASE: If your RPMs were low enough that MIVEC wasn't active and you shut her down FAST, you may have some bent valves and very minimal piston damage/dings that you "might" be able to skirt by with. That still means the heads come off for new valves.

Given that there are 6 pistons each potentially impacting 4 valves with goobered timing, and the fragile nature of the cast pistons we have...you're probably going to find at least a couple pistons with damage that necessitates piston replacement. It's a BIG bill that hopefully gets warranteed through the parts company to cover the shop bill.

Here is a parts diagram for reference:
Engine for 2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse | Capital City Mitsubishi Parts

For a piston+rings+4 valves, you're already looking at ~$350 in parts per cylinder. That doesn't include nic'nacs like valve guides or head gaskets. Additionally, you will have an exceedingly hard time sourcing parts. I could not find flywheel bolts last summer (nationwide) as Mitsu stopped sending many parts to the U.S.. Best of luck, I really do hope you get her back on the road.
Agh!! this is exactly why i had my timing belt replaced after i got the car, to avoid exactly this.

my mother had a 95’ eclipse, and what killed it was the timing belt. heres to hoping history does not repeat.

I truly am praying the parts company covers much of this, as i am nowhere near made of money. If the car is a loss, i do have my eye on an mx-5 though ;)
Update; Shop says theyre hoping to have jackie up and running again by next friday! Said they took the head off and did indeed find damage, will be replacing valves, machining the head for any warping, of course replacing timing belt various other bits. AFAIK most of this will indeed be covered by the supplier!

we may be in luck to see her driving again!
If you got away without any meaningful piston damage, then count yourself lucky! I can't imagine the heads being warped, as there wasn't anything like a head gasket popping and dumping coolant to cause large temperature discrepancies, but it is good to plane down a nice perfect deck surface.

Good luck and let us know when she gets back on the road!
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